MIRACLE, n. An act or event out of the order of nature and unaccountable, as beating a normal hand of four kings and an ace with four aces and a king.Ambrose Bierce, The Devil’s Dictionary
Readers have asked for an update from German author Leo H. DeGard, who tapped me twenty years ago for inclusion in his book, Who is Planning the Third World War: An analysis from prophetic, military and intelligence sources. He graciously agreed to discuss present European events in light of past statements by European mystics and seers. Please note: Coverage of this subject is not meant as an endorsement of specific prophecies, seers or predictions.
interview with leo h. degard
NYQUIST: Some of my readers are keen to get an update from you. They fondly remember the interview I did with you several years ago.
DEGARD: A few days ago, a friend said it was time for a new edition of my prophecy book. Unfortunately, I do not have enough time to revise the old manuscript but if you have any questions about the [European] prophecies please just ask me. I will try to answer.
NYQUIST: Thank you. Do you see some of the prophecies you wrote about in 2002 coming to pass now?
DEGARD: I’d say that by now the overall political environment fits much better into the predicted scenario. There is, for example, one thing that is impressive, and that is the development of military drones which were not being used in 2002 but are ubiquitous today. It’s the same with the ‘comet-like ascent’ of Red China as an economic and military world power. This was predicted in the 1970s by an Austrian seer who I once met in person. And another thing is the widespread use of smartphones that today look exactly as described by Alois Irlmaier in the 1950s. Two decades ago we had cell phones but Irlmaier described the typical wiping or swiping motion of the finger over the touchscreen. This is new and was not known even two decades ago let alone in the 1950s.
NYQUIST: Irlmaier was, as I recall, one of the most impression visionaries of the last century in terms of things he got right.
DEGARD: Yes. Irlmaier was the most impressive seer we had in Germany. There once was a court case against him because someone accused him of ‘jugglery,’ but he could prove his ability in such an impressive way that the court had to acknowledge his gift in the decision and he was acquitted.
NYQUIST: The prophecies you covered in your book pointed to a future war with Russia, China and other countries. Is this unfolding now? And how do you see the timetable we are on?
DEGARD: I don’t know for sure when this war might break out, and I’m not sure if it is beginning soon. It could be, yes. But It is not clear at present. Of course, I think we are coming closer.
NYQUIST: What signs are you looking for?
DEGARD: In Germany we should expect high inflation before the war. At the moment inflation is rising, but it’s not yet high inflation. The next sign after that is some kind of national uprising or maybe a military coup, or something similar. And although the sentiment is getting worse here in Germany, as we have many protests in many cities because of the lockdowns, we are not close to an uprising yet.
NYQUIST: What kind of war is predicted? Were the seers predicting a conventional war or a nuclear war? Do the aggressors win or lose?
DEGARD: It seems that all kinds of weapons will be used, especially nuclear and chemical weapons, and of course conventional weapons too. It is predicted very clearly that the communists will lose the war, that means Russia will lose completely and the U.S. will win. The fate of China is not quite clear. It is possible China defects at one point during the war. First off, they attack the West together with Russia but then later it seems China fights against the Russians. But this is not entirely clear.
NYQUIST: Is there any indication (or agreement) as to where the war starts?
DEGARD: Yes. We should expect two regional wars to break out shortly before things escalate out of control in Europe. There will be a Middle East war in the region Syria-Israel and a new war in the Balkans region involving Macedonia-Greece-Turkey. In the Balkans we should expect the first nuclear strikes. Following these two regional wars there should be a peace initiative with a peace conference. During this peace conference it is predicted that a high-ranking politician gets killed. There are hints the victim of this murder could be the U.S. President or maybe a high-ranking U.S. official.
NYQUIST: There are civil disorders predicted in these prophecies, too, aren’t there? What countries are supposedly impacted?
DEGARD: Yes. Civil disorders are to be expected in Italy, France and Spain, and in the United States, too. But in the U.S. it seems these are racial disorders. And as you know, the U.S. already suffered racial riots last year with Black Lives Matter. In Germany there should also be a civil-war-like condition. And there is one more sign that I remember. One seer from Austria said that there would be fighting in Galicia, too, before the global escalation. He meant the Galicia in the region Poland-Ukraine, not the Galicia in Spain. This Galicia is in the western part of Ukraine; which means it is not in the eastern parts where we have the [current] war in Donbass.
NYQUIST: So, this could refer to a Russian invasion of western Ukraine?
DEGARD: Yes, I’d say so; but, unfortunately, there is only one source confirming this, at least I don’t know of more than one.
NYQUIST: Do the prophecies refer to a Chinese invasion of the United States?
DEGARD: Yes. This will be a combined invasion by Russia and China through Alaska and maybe on the West Coast, too, but Irlmaier said ‘they won’t get far.’
NYQUIST: This aligns with the testimony of a GRU defector who spoke of Russian and Chinese plans for a future invasion.
DEGARD: Irlmaier said, ‘At the same time the yellow dragon [China] invades Alaska and Canada. However, it doesn’t get very far.’ Irlmaier added, “The Russians are trying to invade North America via Alaska.”
NYQUIST: Are there any details as to how this invasion is defeated?
DEGARD: Unfortunately, Irlmaier does not explain in detail how the attackers will be defeated. At least, he does not explain this in the case of American soil. In Europe the main reason for the Russian defeat seems to be the use of a chemical barrier that seals off Western Europe from the east along the line Prague-Baltic Sea or maybe Trieste-Baltic Sea. This barrier is laid by a huge fleet of American drones coming from northern Africa as it seems – somewhere in the desert. Irlmaier explained in detail the effects of this agent. It is yellow and/or green (maybe a binary agent) and wherever it falls down all plants, all animals and humans die away. The flesh of the victims gets necrotic and turns black. He said the Russian tanks are still driving when the crews inside are already dead. He said it will be a clear night when these drones start dropping the agent. Because of this barrier the logistics of the Russian attack collapses and the Russian troops that are already in Germany start to panic. They throw away their expendable equipment and retreat to the north.
NYQUIST: There must be a terrifying loss of life in this war.
DEGARD: Oh yes. Irlmaier predicted a huge loss of life. Whole nations will disappear, he said.
NYQUIST: Do any of these prophecies mention biological weapons or the pandemic we are now experiencing?
DEGARD: I cannot remember any good and reliable sources that foretell the current pandemic or any other biological weapons. There are some mentions of new pests or new diseases, but not with any detail.
NYQUIST: Do you think prophecies of this kind are reliable, or should we treat them as an interesting possibility coming from people who have occasionally made accurate predictions?
DEGARD: Irlmaier was such an amazing seer, who predicted the individual fate of so many people accurately – decades into the future – that I consider his prophecies reliable.
NYQUIST: Are there indications of what the world will be like after the war? Will people be more religious? Will civilization be set back to the dark ages? Will mankind be morally improved in any way?
DEGARD: There is a good documentary movie about Irlmaier and how he predicted the individual fate of many people. It is interesting that this documentary hardly mentions his war prophecies. Unfortunately, the language is Bavarian, so it’s probably difficult for you to understand, but if you want to get an impression, you may take a look: https://vimeo.com/ondemand/aloisirlmaier. As for life after the war, it will change in such a way that, yes, people will believe in God once again and there will be a remarkable religious renaissance; and this will be related to a return to a morally renewed lifestyle. For example, Irlmaier said that abortion will be prohibited after the war. He said people will treat each other in a more decent way. At the same time there should be more personal freedom and responsibility. The question of the technological level of life is hard to answer. Soon after the war life will be quite basic but there are other sources that predict amazing technological advances in quite a short time after the war.
NYQUIST: Will Islam be a factor in the war?
DEGARD: Yes, but not a huge factor. There are two occasions in which Islam seems to play a role. First, there is an Austrian prophecy from the 1970s that predicts an Islamist attack against New York City, probably with a nuclear device, probably a missile, shortly before the outbreak of global war. And then there are riots with Muslim youths in European cities also during the prelude to war. But there are also hints that some parts of the Muslim population will help to defend Germany against the Russian invasion. I interpret it this way: that the Muslim population in Europe will be divided. Some will fight the atheist-communists because of their faith and some others will make trouble especially during the prelude to the Russian attack. There are only a few German sources predicting anything about Islam. But there are Islamic prophecies from the Middle East who paint a similar picture concerning the Third World War; for example, one source says that a sign before this war would be that ‘red people’ come to Turkey and Turkey will turn communist. This could mean a Russian invasion into Turkey. That would fit the picture of most European prophecies that predict a kind of Russian encirclement of Europe. The Russians will start their invasion into Europe at its flanks in the north – that means Scandinavia – and in the south – that means the Balkans and possibly Turkey. The next strike is then in the direction of Germany and France. But this strike will barely reach the Rhine before their supplies break down because of the chemical barrier.
NYQUIST: Is there anything more specific on Turkey?
DEGARD: I quote from the Islamic prophecies, Armageddon – the Great War, Sayyidina Mahdi and why Jesus will come again, by Sheikh Nazim, who wrote: ‘For Mahdi’s coming, peace be upon him, there are two signs. The first is that the Turks will become communist, then the great war will break out. That is the second sign. Then Mahdi, peace be upon him, will come….’ [p. 134] Armageddon is here conceived as a war between the East and West. It is written that the West will win and the East will disappear. This greatest war is taking place between followers of Jesus Christ and unbelievers who ‘seek pleasure and follow purely materialistic goals.’ [p. 164] ‘”[The] Red people” have come to Afghanistan. They also have come to Pakistan and then to Turkey. There will be huge Russian forces west of Aleppo. At the same time the American forces will be in Turkey, in Adana, near the sea. There will be a great battle on the plain there. The war will last three months, and during that war the Mahdi will appear.’ These Islamic prophecies agree more or less with similar German predictions; for example, a prophecy by Erwin Zahn, who said, ‘The Soviet communists are also the arsonists in the Middle East as they meet with little resistance in Northern and Western Europe, in the Balkans and in Turkey.’ He continues, ‘First the Soviets invade Afghanistan and Persia. People will scoff at the fact that it does no harm to the mullahs if they are chased away. With the attack, Turkey and the Balkans are also affected by NATO states, which means that this war will spread across Europe.’ A similar Austrian prophecy says: ‘The occupation of Turkey by the Russians will be the beginning of the great war.’ A prophecy from South African seer Nicolaas Rensburg, says: ‘During the night, Russia storms through Turkey on the way to the Suez region, whereby Turkey does not offer any resistance. The Russians now come into contact with the American army in Syria and Palestine, where they (the Russians) are stopped by the Americans. Palestine is destroyed during the fighting. Many secret weapons and gas are used everywhere. While terrible bombs sow death and destruction, nations are wiped out. Some nations cease to exist, other survive, but will then be insignificant.’ He says later, ‘The war will be very fierce and quick, destructive and dire. Nations will be disbanded, very quickly, by air strikes, by bad bombs and bacteriological warfare. Some Arabs are standing on the side of the Americans. Many oil fields in the Middle East are being set fire to by the Red Army which is defeated by the technically advanced weapons of the United States.’
NYQUIST: Many years ago, a South African friend told me about Rensburg, an Afrikaner Christian, farmer and soldier who died in 1926.
DEGARD: There is also a prophecy from Scandinavia by Anton Johansson who said, ‘Persia and Turkey will be conquered – presumably by Russian troops – and will lose their oil wells and riches.’ It is often hard to estimate if these prophecies are reliable because in contrast to Alois Irlmaier these seers do not have a proven track record; but as you see, irrespective of their background, Christian and Islamic visionaries, from totally different parts of the world, paint a similar picture of the future.
NYQUIST: With recent Russian preparations against Ukraine, I cannot help asking what people in Germany are saying. Is NATO going to let Russia take Ukraine?
DEGARD: My impression is that people in Germany do not realize what is happening in Ukraine. They are busy dealing with the corona virus chicanery and the lockdown. My impression is that Ukraine is not in the public mind at all. I guess it is not a coincidence that Putin makes trouble in Ukraine. The strategists in Moscow understand that public support for the government in Germany – and public support for governments throughout Europe – has never been so low. The Kremlin is probably trying to combine the public dissatisfaction because of the lockdown with the foreseeable rejection of any resolute stance against Russia.
NYQUIST: It seems the West has been seriously weakened from within.
DEGARD: In my view it would be much easier if the public would eventually understand that our government [in Germany] is obviously controlled by communist agents who act on orders from Moscow and Beijing. I guess if NATO was exposed to a political stress test in the form of a possible military action against Russia at the moment – well, perhaps NATO would not survive. At least it would lose a lot of its credibility. I would not be surprised if the Ukraine situation [involves] Russian nuclear blackmail against the West. This would boost the peace movement tremendously.
NYQUIST: So, Europe may be at a turning point.
DEGARD: Yes, I’m afraid that is true. When we take a look at the news, our fear grows even more. For example, Europe is rebelling against American power – The Boston Globe.
NYQUIST: Aside from recent developments in France, do you see any positive signs at all?
DEGARD: Unfortunately, at the moment, I do not see anything that could set things right. But I have full confidence that the communists will be defeated. I just don’t see how this happens right now. My confidence comes from the fact that prophecies from the past are coming true. You know, that my starting point for dealing with communist strategy was the fact that prophecies predicted a return of communism. And nobody twenty years ago could imagine that this might really happen. And it did. Twenty years ago, people said I was crazy because I said communism would return. They were laughing at me back then. These people don’t laugh anymore. They are getting afraid and ask me to boost their morale. And there is one more thing I forgot to tell you with regard to your question on how the Russians will be defeated. Irlmaier said that during the war there will be some kind of uprising in Russia, too, and a civil war breaks out that causes heavy loss of life in Russian cities. In the end the Russian leaders will realize the hopelessness of their cause and will commit suicide. This is what Irlmaier said.
NYQUIST: Do you think the war could start this year?
DEGARD: I know that you have concerns. In my view it is too early for world war this year. The signs don’t fit the picture yet; but we are near, I agree. Maybe next year, but I am not sure. The prophecies say that Russia’s attack on Germany will start in July or August. This is coming up fast and I don’t believe the missing signs will happen before then, in such a short time.
NYQUIST: What do you think of the reported food shortages in China?
DEGARD: I remember a statement by Golitsyn that such news about communist food shortages is often deceptive.
NYQUIST: Yes. We must be careful about Beijing’s public claims.
DEGARD: At the moment, in Germany, our government is ruining our agriculture with silly new environmental regulations.
NYQUIST: I think there will be serious economic trouble ahead.
DEGARD: Maybe the communists need even more chaos in Western societies, more public disobedience, more economic ruin – to turn public opinion against our local authorities. This is exactly what [German Chancellor] Merkel seems to go for.
NYQUIST: That seems to be part of the process here, too.
DEGARD: There is no other explanation for our current ‘lockdown.’ Our local police are on the verge of insubordination. A few days ago, an officer in charge of a police operation during a large protest in Stuttgart refused to dissolve the demonstration. In Vienna there was a similar situation during such a protest.
NYQUIST: You heard what Putin said at the DAVOS meeting: ‘Things could get out of control and cause a war of all against all.’
DEGARD: It seems our government [in Germany] is losing the police and, when this happens, they will also lose the military. And yes, I know what Putin said, as I understand it, he said if a ‘peaceful transition to socialism’ (as posited in Sakharov’s writings) fails, then the alternative is civil war followed by invasion.
NYQUIST: Yes, that seems to be the formula. Thank you for taking so much time today. This has been an worthwhile discussion.
DEGARD: By the way, maybe I should use this as an opportunity to say thank you, Jeff, that you are so steadfast to write about the communist menace for decades although you probably don’t get much appreciation.
NYQUIST: Well, I just got some appreciation. Thank you.
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