During several of the summer months of 1783, when the effect of the sun’s rays to heat the earth in these northern regions should have been the greatest, there existed a constant fog over all of Europe, and a great part of North America. This fog was of a permanent nature; it was dry, and the rays of the sun seemed to have little effect toward dissipating it, as they easily do to a moist fog, arising from water. They were indeed rendered so faint of a burning, they would scarce kindle brown paper. Of course, their summer effect in heating the earth was exceedingly diminished.

Benjamin Franklin, 1784
Aftermath of the 1783 Laki eruption
In Iceland

Is global warming real, or are we facing global cooling? I had the pleasure of interviewing David DuByne on Saturday, September 11. David has been talking about the coming of a mini Ice Age. He also knows a great deal about changes in the Earth’s electromagnetic field, food supply issues, farming, and theories regarding catastrophic earth changes. One of the big questions is whether the Chinese and Russians have advanced knowledge of these climate changes. If so, are there strategic ramifications?



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  1. It appears that the Chastisement foretold by Our Lady of Fatima is beginning. There have been other prophecies that fit as well.The two following in particular:Josef Kugelbeer (The Seer of Vorarlberg, 1922)

    “Overnight the revolution of the communists together with the national socialists starts. There is a storm over cloisters and clergymen. At first humans do not want to believe it, so surprisingly it will happen. Many will be imprisoned and executed. Everyone flees into the mountains. The Pfaender (Mountain) is full of people.”

    “Like a lightning from cheerful sky the revolution of Russia sweeps through first to Germany, then to France, Italy and England.”

    “The mischief will quite suddenly come from Russia. Everywhere tumults and destruction. The Rhine areas are destroyed by airplanes and invading armies.”

    “…mass famine and hunger, people will grind bark, in order to make flour; also the grass on the meadows will be used as food.”

    “The earth is a corpse field, like a desert. Humans come out quietly, frightened from their houses. The corpses are collected on wagons and buried in mass graves. Neither railways nor ships function, nor cars as in earlier times. The factories do not work, the fast pace of former times has stopped.”Sepp Wudy, the farmer’s farmhand (died in the First World War)

    “As Sepp was called up to war [World War I] he said he wouldn’t come back because he has to die in ice and snow. As it happened, he perished during the world war in the Dolomites. This is not the last war (1st world war), Sepp said, because then soon there will be another, and only after that the last one comes. This last one is more terrible than the other one. To know what it will be like at the time, you will be able to talk to your cousin in Vienna from your own house, and if you needed him rapidly he could be with you within one hour.

    “The bohemian forest will one day be burned like a straw barn. Don’t run away when the gray birds are flying. If you see this, know that the end is near and it has already begun. It will then be like one hundred years ago. So much the people are thrown back and with this they will be punished for their wantonness.

    “You have the meal in front of you and are not allowed to eat it, because it brings you death; and you have the water and may not drink it, because it would also mean your death. From the Osser (mountain at the Bavarian-Bohemian boundary) there will still be a water source — there you can drink. The air corrodes into the skin like a poison. Put on all the clothing you have and don’t even let the tip of your nose remain uncovered. Place yourself into a hole and wait till it is all over. It will not last long. Or look for a cave in the mountains. When you loose your hair it has gotten you. Take a Kronwittbirl (Juniper fruit) into the mouth. This will help. And don’t drink milk for (at least) eight weeks.

    “It will be bad, and the later-born ones will have to learn writing and reading anew. The cause will be that the people do not recognize the Devil anymore, because he is dressed beautifully and promises everything to them.

    “When no owl cries any more and the hares come to the house and collapse, then go away from the water and don’t mow grass. In these times there will be no more border against Bavaria, but the border will be I cannot say.” [Ed. comment: Wudy lived in Bohemia, few miles away from the border to Bavaria. This border doesn’t exist anymore since the Czechs joined the European Union.)

    “However, what do I say? It does not concern you but tell it to your children and grandchildren. They will have to face it and will experience the rest of the story. I also do not understand those that have no modesty at all. People will become increasingly base and godless, so things must come to a head. In the end [Europe] will be like [it was] one hundred years ago. I see even more, but I can’t understand it and can’t tell it. With the decline of faith everything goes downhill, and everything gets confused. Nobody sees clearly. The elite already believe nothing at all, the masses will be made crazy. In the church they play dance music and the parson will sing to it. Then they also dance, but outside there will be the celestial sign, which announces the beginning of great mischief. There will be a brightness in the north, like never seen before, and then the fire will rise up all around.

    “Go to Bavaria, where blessed Mary protects the people; but there too all will be chaotic. Everything will come like the Stormberger has told, but he didn’t tell everything or they didn’t understand him. Because it will be worse than bad.” [Ed. comment: Stormberger is another seer who lived about 50-75 years before in almost the same region, his predictions are still known there today.]

    “Farmer, tell this to your children: they shall run to the mountain when everything crashes. I’m only a farmhand and I don’t know if it’s a good or bad spirit which is showing me all these things. But I know it will happen.” I’ve heard you talk about prophecies a few times Mr. Nyquist, I hope you will find these interesting.

    1. Add to this the following:

      The Pope from 1903 till 1914, Pius X, born as Giuseppe Sarto and later beatified under Pius XII, had two interconnected visions during his pontificate, both equally terrible. In 1909, during an audience he gave to a group of Franciscans, Pius X had a vision, in which he saw a future Pope fleeing Rome:

      “What I have seen is terrifying! Will I be the one, or will it be a successor? What is certain is that the Pope will leave Rome and, in leaving the Vatican, he will have to pass over the dead bodies of his priests!”

      Shortly before his death in 1914, Pope Pius X had another vision, that was similar:

      “I have seen one of my successors, OF THE SAME NAME, who was fleeing over the bodies of his brethren. He will take refuge in some hiding place; but after a brief respite, he will die a cruel death. Respect for God has disappeared from human hearts. They wish to efface even God’s memory. This perversity is nothing less than the beginning of the last days of the world.”

      Pope Benedict XVI, whose “resignation” in 2013 was, say ever more experts, canonically flawed (remember the lightning that hit St. Peter’s on the day of his announcement?), is certainly still valid Pope (at least, as valid as his Conciliar predecessors since John XXIII who opened the Second Vatican Council in 1962, which effectively destroyed the Roman Catholic Church). And his birth name is, like Pope Pius X’s was: JOSEPH, or in Italian: Giuseppe!

      Unfortunately, Pius X didn’t say whether by “of the same name” he meant the birth name, or the acquired name of that future Pope, the latter of which would mean that the vision was about a Pope by name of Pius. But the Piuses are history in this revolutionary church.

      On the other hand, “Pope” Francis’ birth name is Jorge (meaning George), so he won’t be the one.

      But then, if POPE “OF THE SAME NAME” JOSEPH RATZINGER, a.k.a. Benedict XVI, is the one Pius X saw in his vision, one must wonder how much time we have left as Ratzinger is already 94 years old and increasingly frail. It seems the most ruthless and bloody religious persecution (that would certainly be part and parcel of the communist bloc’s “World October”) is waiting just around the corner. And if one looks over to France, where churches have been vandalised and even set on fire en masse during the last couple of years, and if one looks up to Canada, where Marxist PM Justin Trudeau is recklessly fanning the flames of indignation over the alleged finding of skeletons of Inuit children around at least one Catholic church in British Columbia, and as a result churches have been burning recently, not only in that region, but increasingly across Canada, one can clearly see that we are already in a period of religious persecution!

    2. Jeff did find this prophesy interesting, so interesting that he had it on his old site. And he had more as well.

      1. Perhaps you may also be interested in a series of talks given by a traditionalist priest on Our Lady of Revelation. This was a series of apparitions of the most Holy Mother of God at Tre Fontane, Rome. A great deal of these consisted of warnings of the coming Chastisement; communist world revolution figured largely in this. These talks can be found on the youtube channel Sensus Fidelium, one need only enter the title Our Lady of Revelation in the channel search-box. I’d insert a link if I knew how, but I’m not very good with electronics, I’m lucky that I’m able to type this here ha ha.

  2. Jeez, couldn’t the previous poster have posted a link or something, in order to keep things brief? I know that this isn’t my blog, but I can’t be the only one who is not willing to slog through reading a damned tome of a response.

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    @JRNyquist: Your presentation was absolutely riveting. Seriously, I think that discussion was one of the most fascinating things that I’ve ever heard. I’ve loved learning about physical sciences since I was a child–astronomy, geology, and meteorology; you and Mr. Dubyne touched on all of them. Like you had said in the video, Mr. Dubyne seems to be a “wealth of information”. Much like yourself, of course 🙂

    Mr. Nyquist, I could listen to you speak like that for hours–I am just rapt; I mean it 😊

    1. Did I put an automatic pistol to your head & force you to read it? When I don’t want to read something I simply don’t.

    1. People interpret, and have always interpreted, prophecy in a myriad of ways–which I suppose makes it subjective. Sometimes people read into it what they want to hear. Those who have clear-sight are few, and those who are mountebanks are many.

      1. Yes ”Janelle Latrouvere”, private prophesy is supposed to be looked at with a very critical eye, the Biblical and Canonical teaching being that there can be no falsity or delusion about the person of the alleged ”Prophet” or falsity or delusion concerning the ”prophesies” themselves. When you factor in the history between the Germanic and the Slavic peoples (to go back to specific ”prophesies” already mentioned in this thread), and the history between the Papacy and Orthodox Christianity, one must be careful that one does not find in these ”prophesies” a ”justification” for the conquest of peoples… With a preparatory period of ”necessary” demonization and vilification which also provides a feedback loop into a cultic acceptance of certain ”prophesies” by their devotees.

        I’d much rather ponder and discuss the ramifications of ”global cooling” on this article comment section, needless to say.

  3. That statement by David Dubyne that China will harvest only about 50% of what they need to feed their people is scary. Already they are scouring the world for every scrap of food that is not tied down. I’d be surprised if that is enough to make up what they lack.

    For several years I’ve heard them remind me of the Nazis, looking for Lebensraum. The Asian countries around them are either too small, too mountainous, too arid, too populated, too cold and/or other reasons that they will not do to make up the shortfall of croplands and food. So if they look for Lebensraum that will be enough for their needs, they’ll need to take a land with plentiful crop lands that have a history of bountiful harvests. Any idea of where that will be? Is not the answer obvious? It certainly is not Taiwan, Japan or the Philippines, or any of the other island nations.

    1. Australia? I seem to recall General Jan Sejna mentioning that in his book; ”we will bury you”.

    2. Jeff and R.O., not sure if you can both comment, for years China has been expanding like there is no tomorrow into Africa, I believe it is connected to the Grand Solar Minimum.

      1. Most of the Chinese expansion of which I know is for the purpose of extracting raw materials for use in China’s factories. Or for purposes of setting up military bases.

        However there’s one project in northern Africa that may be connected with global cooling. From what I hear, that project may not come on line in time to prevent mass starvation in China.

  4. Well, after hearing this talk it really seems that the Reds actually chose 2020 for a reason.

    War or not war, things will probably be difficult for everyone. Good luck and godspeed.

  5. I remember several years ago a climate expert said a cold spell was coming not a global warming but since it was not popular at that time and they only mentioned global warming.

      1. It’s a pity that science has been so thoroughly corrupted by cupidity & a wilfully blinkered adherence to the ivory-skulled imbecility of Darwinism.

  6. The Global push to inject the entire population of the World with deadly mRNA Covid serum, creates immediate sterility and will result in autoimmune disease in about ten to fifteen years. Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s diseases will likely result sooner. It’s as if the plan is to eliminate more than eighty percent of the population before limited resources result in chaos. The first act was to gut the entire World economy before it could crash on it’s own.

    A controlled demolition?

    The combined fortunes of the Japanese and Axis forces after World War II, came into possession of the United States, but was diverted into a black budget. Those funds amount to as much as the rest of the total Worlds economy, and remain in possession of an oligarchy.

    Have supercomputers and AI advanced technology to beyond human engineers? Robotic manufacturing has replace human craftsmen. Have people become obsolete? Does the Global elite, crave a vacant planet all to themselves?

      1. I’m sure that they’ve satisfied themselves that they have a sufficient number of machines, computers, supplies & lackeys to serve them. As for the rest whom they consider to be no more than cattle, it’s time for them to be conveyed to the knacker’s yard.

    1. “Have supercomputers and AI advanced technology to beyond human engineers?” The answer is “No”. Human engineers are still needed to program the AI. Furthermore, AI has no imagination, able to design things not already programmed into the AI.

      “Robotic manufacturing has replace human craftsmen.” Depends on how you define “craftsmen”. Assembly line work tries to make robots out of men, so naturally robots work assembly line jobs better than humans. But there are many jobs that require craftsmen that robots can’t emulate, so there’ll always be need for craftsmen.

      “Have people become obsolete?” Don’t the answers to the above two questions already answer this question?

      “Does the Global elite, crave a vacant planet all to themselves?” Apparently that’s what they think they want. But if they get it, they won’t like it. As the ladyfromlibertygarage wrote, such a planet will fall apart.

      There’s the law of unintended consequences. Should the elites decimate the world’s population as is their goal, there will be consequences that they don’t anticipate, nor will they like. While I don’t have a crystal ball that could give me the exact answer, I can imagine some results that they won’t like.

      Then there are events that are completely unexpected. For example, the plague and famine from about 536–545 was apparently started by a volcanic explosion that apparently makes the 1815 Tambora eruption look tame by comparison. (The Sunde strait in which Krakatoa stands is itself a large, volcanic caldera, could that have been the volcano whose explosion split an island into two, as Indonesian oral history recounts? Was that explosion in 536?) What will be the full effects of the present global cooling? How many crops will be affected? Where will crops no longer be grown because of cold?

      I don’t remember from where I heard it, maybe from David DuByne, that the climate during the Little Ice Age around 1700 was dominated by short, very hot summers that often were not long enough to ripen crops, with long, cold winters that killed the crops. Is that what we are starting to experience now?

  7. Ice Age Farmer has been following and detailing the engineered food shortages for over a year.
    The banks have withdrawn investment for fossil fuel production.
    So you have a perfect storm (for some), Solar panel and windmills do not work well when they are covered in ice, neither do the battery storage “solutions”…
    Those who are unprepared will suffer terribly for the folly of their useful idiot politicians…

      1. It would seem that the idea is to make the suffering as long and drawn out as possible. Of course the progressive are the ones to insist that everyone be so-called, vaccinated, yet they will be the ones first to die. The Globalists can’t wait to kill off their own base. What then? How do they get rid of the rest of US? Why not just release a real virus, or faster actin poisonous injections?

        I may have missed something. What was it again that Stalin did for his useful idiots?

  8. On the (only slightly) lighter note; Even beautiful Finnish singer Tarja Turunen sings about that.
    Regards from EUNUCHALIA – Bogdan

  9. In the news today:

    Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis warned Monday that cities and counties in his state that comply with President Biden’s mandate and force employees to get vaccinated will be fined $5,000 per infraction.

    “We are here today to make it very clear that we are going to stand for the men and women who are serving. We are going to protect Florida jobs,” DeSantis said at a news conference in Alachua County.

    “We are not gonna let people be fired because of a vaccine mandate.”
    https://www.wnd.com/2021/09/5000-fines-compliance-biden-vaccine-mandate/

    “Some voters say they were told the computers showed them as already having voted, even though they had not,” the report explained about the balloting at El Camino Real Charter High School in Woodland Hills.

    Estelle Bender, 88, said in the report she was “far from the only person who was being told incorrectly that they had already voted.”

    She reported filling out a provisional ballot and leaving “really angry.”

    She identifies as Republican and said others facing the same problem apparently do too.
    https://www.wnd.com/2021/09/mystery-republicans-california-told-already-voted-newsom-recall/

  10. Grand solar minimum causes a slight increase in gravitational potential from the Sun as the star and its outer atmosphere contracts slightly. This results in a slighter greater pull on the earth, this effects of this has recently been measured and corroborated by manifesting in the fastest solar years since measurements began from 2019 onwards we have been breaking records as the earth is spinning on axis slightly faster also due to centripetal force .
    This causes increased frictional forces within the Earth’s mantle much the same as a spit roast slipping on the skewer.
    That is the reason for the increase in earthquakes and volcanicity.
    Glad I could clear something up on here…

    1. Charles Hapggod, in 1953, wrote a book called “Earth’s shifting crust: a key to some basic problems of earth science”, where he made up a theory to explain how Antarctic had been ice-free until year 4000 BC (see Bibliography ).
      The theory summing up is as follows:
      The reason Antarctic was ice-free, and therefore much warmer, it is to be found in the fact that, at one time, its location wasn’t the south pole. It was located approximately 2000 miles further north. Hapgood says this “would have put it outside the Antarctic Circle in a temperate or cold temperate climate”.

      The reason why the continent moved down to its present location has to be found in a mechanism called “earth-crust-displacement”. This mechanism, not to be confused with the plate-tectonics or the continental drift, is one whereby the lithosphere, the whole outer crust of the earth “may be displaced at times, moving over the soft inner body, much as the skin of an orange, if it were loose, might shift over the inner part of the orange all in one piece”. (Charles Hapgood, “Maps of the ancient sea-kings”, cited, visit the Bibliography for more info).

      This theory was sent to Albert Einstein, which answered to Hapgood in very enthusiastic terms. Though geologists did not seem to accept Hapgood’s theory, Einstein seemed to be as much open as Hapgood saying:
      “In a polar region there is a continual deposition of ice, which is not symmetrically distributed about the pole. The earth’s rotation acts on these unsymmetrically deposited masses, and produces a centrifugal momentum that is transmitted to the rigid crust of the earth. The constantly increasing centrifugal momentum produced in this way will, when it has reached a certain point, produce a movement of the earth’s crust over the rest of the earth’s body….” (Einstein’s foreword to “Earth’s shifting crust” p.1)

      https://old.world-mysteries.com/sar_1.htm

      1. Hapgood also put together a book on the maps of the ancient sea kings which discusses very old maps showing Antarctica ice free. These maps come from the ancient world. Antarctica was not discovered until the early 19th century.

  11. The reason planetary alignment can have such powerful effects is due to the notion of gravity being derived from zero point energy or rather the mass of a planet or stars ability to absorb this energy causing a directional imbalance and thus a flow of energy which manifests itself to us as a gravitational field (greater energy coming from above and from the side than through the planet).
    Zero point energy is all around us and travels chaotically in all directions simultaneously. certain Planetary alignments can thus effect the directionality of this force to provide an overall magnitude, which referring back to my previous post can contribute to the release of large tectonic forces within the earths crust.
    Even the close orbits of the moon can be correlate to increased seismic activity as it moves away from it’s closest point relieving the built up pressure…

  12. I do not think the strength of earths magnetic field will have significant effect on electric motors which use permanent magnets. Certainly will not effect electromagnetic components which rely on current flow. Some motors use excitation coils and have no permanent magnets at all.
    Perhaps minor effects on communications, but it was proven in the 1960’s even a high altitude nuclear blast only disrupts comms for a brief period and even then only at lower frequencies.
    These are very strong effects locally and are hardly influenced by the planetary field.
    The biggest threat to energy grids is manmade, i.e. EMP weapons which could be employed during a solar flare event to provide cover for an attack.

    1. Earth’s Crust Displacement Hypothesis, posits that centrifugal force is increased due to Earth transiting the apex of the ellipse of the Cycle of Precession, Leo and Aquarius being at the pointy end of the football shaped path. The Mayan Calendar ended at the exact date on which Earth entered, the Age of Aquarius. Ice ages, don’t occur every thirteen thousand years, but when they do, it’s in Leo and Aquarius. Milankovitch factors (Sun cycles) are what make the difference. We don’t seem to be headed for an ice age this round, but as the Earth reaches it’s farthest most distance from the Sun, it’s bound to get colder. Also, it’s in Leo and Aquarius when Earth is most near to the Asteroid Belt, so those are the times when Earth gets most pelted with bollides.

      https://pirireismap.tripod.com

  13. We’re going to need to undemonise fossil fuels.
    Build coal, oil and gas powered plants next to massive greenhouses in the less temperate zones to utilise the C02 for growth stimulus and heating during the colder climate events. Canada is going to be totally screwed there is only so much coal energy that Montana will be able to spare.
    This really needs to start happening now.
    One thing Dave missed out on is the GMO industry which I am sure is poised to market more GMO as the holy grail answer to the food crisis that they helped to cause. This strategy will inevitably fail. The strength of human civilisation used to be in the diversity of the crops we used to cultivate.
    To answer your question we receive about 10kw per square meter from the sun. Solar cells are 20% efficient so that drops to 1kw per square meter effectively.
    China appears to be heading down the Thorium energy route.

    1. John Davies, there was a guy named Scott Gutterman who is the CEO of Beacon Offshore Technology. He gave a talk to a group called Doctors for Disaster Preparedness. His presentation talked about the reality of moving to the unreliables (Solar, wind) in terms of cost and effect. He proved that the math just does not work. For example, to have the right amount of solar panels to meet the Biden Administration’s deadlines would require the entire state of ILLIONOIS to become nothing but solar panels. The story of wind mills is just as terrifying. The DDP are gradually reposting their talks. I hope that Mr. Gutterman’s will be posted. It was excellent information.

  14. https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a36630528/china-artificial-sun-breaks-fusion-world-record/

    Dr DeLuze has invented A/C nuclear fusion, but wants to use it to remove greenhouse gasses from the atmosphere, but Nature magazine says that those gasses insulate the planet from the cold of Space, at this point in the Cycle of Precession, and will put Earth in an ice age.

    If they can make us wear masks, they will probably do it.
    http://www.fusionenergysolutions.net/approved-patent.html

  15. Jeff, or anybody :

    When we say that there will be cooling, does that mean 3 or 5 or 10 degrees Farenheit ? Or are we talking about huge temperature changes ? If huge, how huge ?
    Just for prepping it seems that would be good to know. Fascinating discussion. I,m about half way through.

    1. Temperature changes depend on latitude and intensity. I am told the drop could be as severe as 7 degrees Fahrenheit for the upper Midwest or as mild as 1.5 degrees. We do not know. What is more significant is the extreme swings in cold and heat at the margins, which threatens crops at both ends of the growing season.

      1. In May of 2019, I met a farmhand from the San Fernando Valley. He said that the previous Summer, tomatoes were two weeks late, and that was enough to severely hurt farmers.

  16. To David’s comment on new viruses coming from space debris causing pandemics, is it not more plausible that the disruption of the earth (dust particles/smoke) from impact causes respiratory issues which inhibit the natural immune system and cause people to be more susceptible to natural viruses found on earth rather than something alien infecting people?

    1. Many theories in this area sound way out. Scientists claim to have found microorganisms in meteor debris, yet the evidence has come under attack. In the 1990s they found debris believed to be from Mars that had fossilized microorganisms (if I am remembering the story correctly). But it was severely disputed. I do not recall further details.

      1. There is absolutely no way the Earth and Mars could not contaminate each other with any microbial organisms present on their surface, oceans or in the crust.
        The question is which came first, and it is probably Mars.
        Dr. Levin absolutely proved the existence of life on Mars in multiple experiments.
        Earth based?
        Mars based?
        Both?

      2. I read an article in the Reader’s Digest, back in the ’60s, that speculates that viruses are extraterrestrial forms of interstellar communication which we haven’t decoded.

      3. “Could debris get through with an organism?”

        In a billion or more years?
        Both ways, multiple times, no doubt about it.

  17. Absolutely riveting. Great format and extremely interesting interview. Would love a second+ installment of this.
    Your comment about watching Putin is so true. If you can read people, you can garnish more information from body language plus responses than any canned official narratives. You can learn even more by watching the movements of the elite either on the stocks they buy up, sell, or real estate investments.

    Just one example of this is the fact that in 2005 the Bush family purchased almost 300,000 acres in the Chaco region of Paraguay and most, right away, assumed natural gas being the incentive but the link below explains a more probable cause. Under this massive expanse of semi arid land is the largest grade A freshwater aquifer in the world. It also happens to be located within the proposed safe zone of a Solar minimum. Perhaps a coincidence.
    https://5minforecast.com/2015/04/24/why-did-george-bush-buy-nearly-300000-acres-in-paraguay/

    The one thing that is a certain is that nothing about the covid crisis makes sense. The world stopped because of a virus that was 99.9% survivable. The frantic push for getting a majority of leaky vaccines in the arms of the public is nothing short of manic. I can not even bring myself to type my suspicions.

  18. Jeff, not sure if you can comment, in 2017 David DuByne made a video called the Ottoman Empire and Ming Dynasty fell during a Mini Ice Age, in 2013, the Chinese Movie Industry actually made a movie called the Fall of Ming 大明劫 which is actually based around the 1640’s when the Ming Dynasty collapsed and during the Maunder Minimum. The characters in the movie are real one of them who is Sun Chuanting (Boya) who leads Ming soldiers against Li Zicheng which results in a defeat and the death of Sun Chuanting. David DuByne has also covered China’s food situation for a few years as well:

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