Throughout the stagnation period [under Brezhnev], not to mention the cult [of Stalin] era, people were afraid to say anything that conflicted with the ‘supreme’ opinion, learning only one thing – to vote unanimously for anything. We would take comfort from the fact that we were doing the same as everyone else. We were only bold when it came to political anecdotes…. Now we are only just learning to speak the truth.
V. Matveyenko
As quoted in Izvestiya
12 March 1988[i]
What happens to the truth when people are silenced? What happens after the government has extorted something vital from a nation – from its warrior class – by threatening people’s jobs, livelihoods, and freedom of movement? Once you have been intimidated into taking an experimental injection because you are “afraid to say anything,” or incapable of standing up, that is the end of your liberty. Your governors can ride roughshod over you and they know it. In that situation, only one comfort remains; namely, that you are doing what everyone else is doing.
Look around and see how many have come down with COVID-19 after being vaccinated. The vaccines are, therefore, ineffective. Yet we were told vaccines would solve the COVID-19 problem. New York’s Citywide Information Portal described the vaccines as, “Safe and effective.”[ii] But there were scientists who knew this was bunkum. When a retired microbiologist and author, Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi, was interviewed by Laura Ingraham last December, he said his chief concern was “The looming vaccination.” After an awkward pause, Ingraham asked his evaluation of masks and other virus counter-measures. Dr. Bhakdi responded, “Zero science.” He then made an eloquent statement about reading, thinking, and making up your own mind. “Don’t believe things people are telling you. Think for yourself. Come to your own conclusions.” Bhakdi said Fauci was taking the wrong approach. According to Bhakdi, “someone who says [what Fauci says] has not the slightest inkling of the basics of immunology. This is very surprising for someone of Dr. Fauci’s standing. And I would dare to defy him anywhere in the world.” With regard to the vaccine Bhakdi said, “I think it is downright dangerous. And I warn you, if you go along these lines, you are going to go to your doom. And it’s so, so unnecessary.”[iii]
Bhakdi wrote a book last year titled Corona: False Alarm? He admitted in his book that the situation was quite confusing. Bad decisions were made about testing, about lockdowns, and more. But the worst decision of all, warned the microbiologist, would be a decision for vaccines. Bhakdi quoted one government official after another saying that the pandemic would only end with mass vaccination. “This is hysterical!” Bhakdi exclaimed. “Since when can government decide how and when a pandemic ends?” Bhakdi then noted that even a successful vaccination “does not guarantee immunity. To worsen matters, antibody production spontaneously wanes after just a few months. Protection, if any at all, is at best short-lived.”[iv]
This is exactly how things have played out. The vaccines do not prevent infection. The first and second shots were not enough, third and fourth and further jabs will be necessary. There is no end in sight. Bhakdi warned that “the idea of a personal “Immune Status’ document is scientifically unsound.” In other words, vaccine passports offer no real solution. Because the virus can rapidly mutate, predicted Bhakdi, the vaccines will fail. Therefore, global vaccination “makes no sense.” And then there are attending risks. First and foremost, rushed vaccines will not have “sufficient safety guarantees.” In fact, mRNA vaccines can cause frightening birth defects, autoimmune reactions, anti-DNA antibodies, inflammation of vital tissues, and toxicity. According to Bhakdi, “the prospects are simply terrifying.”[v]
The vaccination of Europe and America may turn out to be the grizzliest medical experiment in history. Consider, again, Bhakti’s statement to Laura Ingraham: “And I warn you, if you go along these lines, you are going to go to your doom.” And look at who is taking us there under the slogan “build, back, better.” They are employing censorship on an unprecedented scale, using private industry in concert with government to force everyone into vaccination. Every dirty trick is being tried. The “long march through the institutions” has brought socialism to this final catalyst – the pandemic. If every solution to every problem is government, then government is going to solve the pandemic. The bungling clown show begins. It is not a matter of relying on the human immune system to work its magic. Now they can declare an emergency and remake everything to their own “woke” specifications.
According to an unvaccinated evolutionary biologist, Heather Heying, “This so-called ‘progressive’ [woke] world is actually highly reliant on authorities and institutions that are pretending to speak truth, but actually coming to conclusions behind closed doors and never showing us the analysis.”[vi] Speaking for herself and her biologist husband Bret Weinstein, Heying explained, “Part of the reason we find ourselves out of step with some of what is being promoted as public health policy … is that almost nothing that has emerged during this pandemic, from public health officials … comes with a description of the analysis that was done. Sometimes there are … references to data sets, but the actual analysis is … hidden, is obscured, [and this] is exactly antithetical to science.” She further added, “Not just the results of science need to be in public view, but the actual scientific process.”[vii]
Thus begins our political investigation; for we are no longer dealing with biological science, but with political intrigue. Why would institutions dominated by partisans of “Woke World,” be pushing unsafe vaccines on the Western capitalist countries? Why hasn’t the West celebrated the astonishing achievement of the Indians, who defeated COVID with ivermectin? It is extraordinary that no Western media acknowledges India’s tremendous success. According to the Desert Review, “News of India’s defeat of the Delta variant should be common knowledge.”[viii] Yet “Woke World” responds with crickets!
The burning question, of course: Is “Woke World” stupid and irresponsible, or power-hungry and totalitarian? But this is not an either/or question. “Woke World” is both stupid and power-hungry, both irresponsible and totalitarian. It is never wise to underestimate a parade of neurotics, each claiming greater victim status. Such people wield power because they are loud and well-financed – and we are too polite to hang them. The rest of society is perplexed and intimidated by angry people with Ph.D’s and offices in Congress, who insist that there are dozens of genders and that men are liable to pregnancy. Nonsense of this kind has a crisp military meaning; for in the shadows a monster is huddling to pounce. We once called it “the communist bloc,” which was universally acknowledged as a threat. God help us, we have no name for it now. You ought to have a name for the thing that is pointing nuclear missiles at you. But somewhere along the way we lost the word “enemy.” We decommissioned the word “communism.” We lost track of the KGB because we imagined the disappearance of the name signified the disappearance of the thing. “A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.” – Or stink as badly. And now we have lost our sense of smell altogether! In Beijing and Moscow, they are laughing at us.
Just Following Orders
A very famous social psychology experiment was carried out by Stanley Milgram at Yale University in 1961. Basically, the experiment measured the willingness of subjects to obey homicidal commands from an authority figure in a white lab coat. In each experiment the authority figure prompted the subject as “teacher” to administer electric shocks to a “learner” in a nearby room whenever the “learner” failed to give the right answer. The “learner” was an actor whose yelps of pain were staged to persuade the subject he was electrocuting a real person.
Before the experiment was conducted, Milgram asked fourteen psychology students in their senior year to predict the percentage of “teachers” who would administer a lethal electric charge of 450 volts. Optimistically, these students predicted that only a small percent of “teachers” would deliver shocks above 100 volts to the “learners.” Milgram also polled his colleagues, who agreed with this assessment. Forty psychiatrists were polled, and all believed the “teachers” would stop delivering the shock when the “learner” demanded to stop the experiment. The real shock came with the actual results of the experiment: 65 percent of test subjects administered the final 450-volt kill-shot. Admittedly, the subjects of the experiment were uncomfortable with the order to administer the voltage, yet the majority were willing to deliver a lethal charge when given the order by a “scientist.”
Milgram made the following comments in a 1974 article: “Obedience is a basic element in the structure of social life…. Some system of authority is a requirement of all communal living, and it is only the person dwelling in isolation who is not forced to respond, with defiance or submission, to the commands of others. For many people, obedience is a deeply ingrained behavior … overriding training in ethics, sympathy, and moral conduct.”[ix]
The fact is, most individuals give way to “authority” instead of following their conscience. Abstract rules and philosophical principles of thought and reason cannot compete with a person who holds aloft the banner of “scientific” authority, which is the ultimate form of authority today. Milgram noted, “The extreme willingness of adults to go to almost any lengths on the command of an authority constitutes the chief finding of the study and the fact most urgently demanding explanation.”
Imagine the kind of trouble we are in today. Obedience remains a thing, but who has a conscience? Who follows moral rules? Who adheres to principles? Would the percentage of subjects delivering the 450 volt charge be larger today? How many have taken the vaccine, so far? Obedience, after all, is obedience. And what choice do people have? They must follow someone. They must follow something. Richard Weaver once wrote that “theoretical considerations always precede and … grade the land for what is to follow. In this case the theoretical preparation was made easier by a general attack upon the idea of discrimination.” Here Weaver related the collapse of hierarchy (i.e., discrimination regarding rank order) to the collapse of chivalry (i.e., discrimination in the use of violence). But he could have gone further. He could have shown that a general collapse of judgment in all areas was indicated – including questions of microbiology, public health, and the law. The men in the white coats, or the ones with four stars on their shoulders, might possess nominal authority – might give orders – but these men no longer discriminate in the old sense of that word.
The United States military is going to be vaccinated. No exceptions, no exemptions. You take the vaccine or you leave the service. Considered in the light of what we know about the vaccines – about their lack of safety and ineffectiveness – the order is madness. It is indiscriminate. Yet there is one more element of madness in the order. Hundreds of thousands of irreplaceable warriors will leave the military. America’s national defense posture will be seriously damaged. Effectively, those who would be inclined to disobey an illegal order are being drummed out of the service. An obedient mass – Milgram’s 65 percent – remain behind (with the tanks, artillery, missiles, etc.). Therefore, the disaster is twofold. First, we lose our best people. Second, the military becomes a more pliant instrument in the hands of bad people; and these are not thinking people. In fact, thinking would have prevented them from being promoted. Most of our leaders acquired status because discrimination was, for them, a dirty word. Worse yet, General Mark Milley – the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff – cannot even discriminate between civilian control of the military and his own uniformed usurpations.
According to a new book by Bob Woodward and Robert Costa, Milley played the hero last January by saving us all from a nuclear war. Recycling the old nonsense story about General Al Haig stopping Richard Nixon from pushing the button in 1974, Woodward simply reframed the story with General Milley stopping Donald Trump’s nuclear moment in January 2021. If it was good enough to paint Nixon as a madman, it is even better to paint Trump as one; though it all goes to prove that Woodward cannot discriminate between fiction and non-fiction in his own writing (and neither can anyone else). What it proves about Milley is less certain, except that everyone knows Milley undermined President Trump during last year’s rioting and looting in the cities. And now he is ready obey the orders of an undiagnosed Alzheimer’s sufferer who whimsically surrenders whole countries to China and who orders the whole U.S. military to be vaccinated.
We need to be very clear. Mandating an experimental medical treatment for the entire U.S. military is unlawful. There is no grey area here. United States District Court Judge Emmett Sullivan, issuing a permanent federal injunction against mandatory anthrax vaccination in 2004, stated, “Congress has prohibited the administration of investigational drugs to service members without their consent. This Court will not permit the government to circumvent this requirement.”[x] Just like the anthrax vaccines, the COVID vaccines are investigational drugs. Article 6:1 of the Nuremberg Code says, “The voluntary consent of the human subject [of an experiment] is absolutely essential. This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, over-reaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion….”[xi]
Meanwhile, Biden, Austin and Milley, as leaders of the U.S. military, are threatening the careers, veteran status and livelihoods of hundreds of thousands of military personnel who would rather not be guinea pigs in a government experiment. They Add to this the fraud of implying that the treatment is safe, that the FDA has approved it.[xii] Then there is the deceit of suggesting the vaccines will stop the pandemic. When they are arrested and put on trial, Austin and Milley might well claim that Biden was mentally incompetent and they did not realize it. But that is no excuse for following an illegal order that disrupts all military service branches and results in unnecessary deaths.
Vaccine deaths, which have already occurred in the U.S. military, may easily rise above COVID deaths. On what grounds can this be asserted? We are told that COVID-19 is ravaging our military. It supposedly threatens operations and kills military personnel. But these claims are only half-true. According to The Military Times: “At the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, in late 2020, the military posted its deadliest month in November. Those four deaths were an anomaly in a year that saw mostly one or two deaths a month, if any….”[xiii]
We are disrupting the armed forces to vaccinate everyone with an experimental treatment because twenty people died last year, and 33 have died this year? As tragic as one death may be, these numbers are militarily insignificant. To put this in perspective, 13 more deaths out of 1.3 million is a one in one-hundred-thousand increase in deaths that are already incredibly low. In fact, more military personnel are struck by lightning in an average year than have died of COVID in two.[xiv] Perhaps, indeed, we should vaccinate for lightning, a proposition logically consistent with the idea that the vaccinated are threatened by the unvaccinated.
For those who can discriminate, there is a glaring problem with the ever-so-slight increase of COVID deaths in the U.S. military this year. With approximately 40 percent of the military vaccinated, shouldn’t there be less deaths this year? How do vaccine proponents explain this? In fact, it is strange to claim that something works when your numbers show no effect whatsoever. Of course, the government likes to claim that nobody receiving both vaccinations has died. But that begs the question of whether the immune-suppressing effects of the first vaccination is what accounts for the increased deaths; or may we attribute the increased loss of life to the vaccines “incubating” more virulent strains in the vaccinated (as some scientists have suggested)?[xv]
How serious should the military be taking COVID-19? There were 571 suicide deaths in the U.S. military last year while there were 20 COVID deaths. In other words, the average American service member was 28 times more likely to kill himself than to die from COVID-19.[xvi] I do not think COVID-19 is a serious problem for the military. But the vaccines are a serious problem. Nobody knows what the long-term effects of these vaccines will be. To force good men to be guinea pigs, to drive them out of the service, is a bad thing. Those commanders who go along with all this are not to be trusted. An illegal order must never be obeyed. There is passage in Sun Tzu’s Art of War that our top generals should be reminded of: “[The general] looks upon his troops as children. Thus they can venture into deep river valleys with him. He looks upon the troops as his beloved sons. Thus they can die together with him. United in profound kinship with their general, the troops respond with uncompromising loyalty. They will obey every order. They will accompany him anywhere, into grave danger, into death.”
Of course, generals who cannot discriminate between a legal and an illegal order, will never win the loyalty of their troops.
Links and Notes
[i] Jonathan Eisen, editor, The Glasnost Reader (USA: Penguin, 1990), p. 189.
[ii] Vaccine Command Center – Coronavirus (nyc.gov)
[iii] Fox News Interview with Sucharit Bhakdi, https://www.mediamatters.org/laura-ingraham/fox-guest-says-covid-vaccine-downright-dangerous-and-will-send-you-your-doom
[iv] Karina Reiss, Sucharit Bhakdi, Corona, False Alarm? (Germany: Kindle, 2020) pp. 99-102.
[v] Ibid, pp. 107-111.
[vi] Dark Horse Podcast, 12 Oct 2021, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkMI4EXYEi8
[vii] Ibid.
[viii] “India’s Ivermectin Blackout,” https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout/article_e3db8f46-f942-11eb-9eea-77d5e2519364.html
[ix] Milgram, https://web.archive.org/web/20101216075927/http://home.swbell.net/revscat/perilsOfObedience.html
[x] Pentagon forcing ‘unnecessary’ COVID vaccine mandate, says fmr. Marine lawyer who fought anthrax vaccine mandate | American Military News
[xi] Microsoft Word – nuremburg_code.doc (fhi360.org)
[xii] The FDA only licensed Pfizer’s Comirnaty vaccine and not its BioNTech product, which remains under EUA restriction.
[xiii] Troop COVID-19 death rate jumps 50-fold since 2020, August deadliest month by far (militarytimes.com)
[xiv] Lightning-Associated Injuries and Deaths Among Military Personnel — United States, 1998–2001 (cdc.gov)
[xv] Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens (nih.gov)
[xvi] Military Deaths by Suicide Jumped 25% at End of 2020 | Military.com

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Who had their finger on the magic of life Louis Pasteur or Antoine Bechamp?
Pasteur admitted on his deathbed that he was wrong with the germ theory and it was proven when his personal papers were released in the 1970s.
A pack of wolves will take down the weakest of their prey first, but when hungry will go after anything. And pathogens are the same. Both theories are right and not exclusive, in my opinion.
Neither is completely right. And, neither can stand alone.
Mr. Nyquist, you replied;
”So Biden is trustworthy?”
I do not see him as fully in charge anyway.
”Climate change advocates are trustworthy?”
I have not considered the issue of Climate Change, Anthropogenic or otherwise. But surely similar politicization of disease and immunology has not occurred in those fields with some similar all-encompassing theory with political and socio-economic ramifications?
”You are using a false stereotype of Americans here.”
Am I? What then of the political tendency? Is not the Libertarian ideology strong among American Conservatives? What happened to the American Conservative ideology of Abraham Lincoln, of Theodore Roosevelt and William Jennings Bryan? Of Alexander Hamilton and Harry Carrey? I am distressed by the notion that a Government in a worldwide crisis is seen as a greater menace than the pandemic virus itself, and any action it takes to fight it is seen as ”Tyranny”? What the Devil have government at all for then?
Lincoln was not a conservative. He was a disciple of Henry Clay who was a statist who wanted to use government for his own ends. Lincoln took up those cudgels and waged an illegal war to force the south back into the Hamiltonian raw deal. The mess we have in the US now is a result of Lincoln’s foundation.
Pilgrim: Oh really? you are distressed that my government is unable to force an experimental medical treatment on me? Oh dear, I feel so bad for your distress. Why is there no forcible vaccinations in Russia where your job is threatened like those of my friends here in America? Only 29 percent of Russians are vaccinated as of two days ago, compared to 56.5 percent of Americans. So tell me: Are Russians anarchists? They are more vaccine resistant than Americans. Are they libertarians? I have read that most Russians had an adverse reaction to being vaccinated with an untested vaccine. Why is that? Do they distrust their government? Oh, wow, I think they do! I wonder why (snigger, snigger). How is that for irony? Are you really Russian, Mr. Vladimir? I just spoke to a Russian-American today. He said many in the Russian-American community are alarmed that the U.S. government is becoming Soviet. They are genuinely frightened. He said they are “waking up.” But there you are, giving support to autocratic socialism. Look at you!
Actually Mr. Nyquist, businesses are compelling people in Russia to get vaccinated, just as they are in the United States. As for Russian-Americans… Many are descended from White emigres, at least the ones I have known. Descendants of Westernized upper-class Russians before 1917, they are often somewhat removed from the realities of life in Russia today. Oh, sure, I’m sure many swooned at the Romanov wedding in Russia recently, but even many Monarchists living in Russia are not so eager to see a Romanov restoration. On the other hand, few anywhere honestly want a Communist restoration, a Soviet restoration. But wanting free health care perhaps is not Communist restoration, I am thinking.
I do know the distrust and the fears, sympathize and understand, about the mandates and the vaccines, but I personally moved beyond all that. I am vaccinated. Society is built on a measure of social love and trust. You cannot have a society at all with total distrust, and there’s a lesson from Russian history about that.
Pilgrim: The Russian I talked with today was born and educated in the Soviet Union. Funny you should color him and his milieu as descended from upper-class Russians from before 1917, who would “swoon at the Romanov wedding.” I detect more than a little a little nostalgia for the Bolsheviks bleeding through your text, and more than a little contempt for the monarchist society you supposedly prefer. I thought you were a Tsarist — that you would be swooning over the prospect of actual royalty. Ah, but you do not like the Romanovs. You like chocolate, but not that kind of chocolate. So Putin is best, then. Such a paradox! The monarchist who dislikes the monarchy but likes the KGB Lt. Col. who likes communist ideas, makes toasts to Stalin, and supports every communist country around the globe. Oh, yes, nobody wants communism in your country. They never liked it, even when it was crammed down their throats. It always stank. All true, except for those agile opportunists who adapted and thrived. But hey, you have “personally moved beyond all that.” You are vaccinated with the Russian vaccine. Life under Vladimir Putin is peachy, His regime is, “built on a measure of social love and trust” while we in the West believe in “checks and balances.” How nasty and paranoid we, preferring the rule of law to the rule of gangsters. I rather think political gangsterism is anarchy, not the rule of law (by which government power is limited). But you will have it your own way.
Jayne Sunter England Thanks for the info on Jordan Maxwell yes I once listened to Alan Watts interview was shocked by that as well he denied in the reality of jesus as well I thought he was a dark figure like most people we just wish we knew the truth on the whole covid pandemic vaccine nightmare the ones behind it know how to fool us keep up the good work Jeff you must get exhausted by it all. The average person dosnt look beyond their nose and they accept anything our gov throws at them they trust them as if they were God and would never think a vaccine would be given to cause you any harm this is the tragedy.
The sad thing, Jayne, is that our government bureaucrats do not really care if we are helped or harmed.
Mr. Nyquist, you also commented to me that;
”You do not deal honestly with any of the points I have raised — specially regarding the Nuremberg laws or Congressional law regarding medical experiments on soldiers. You no where address these points of law, but refer to those who do as “anarchists”? That is rich. ”
If your vaccines are approved for use by FDA and the CDC, what ”medical experimentation” is going on? That phase would be over and volunteers already examined for their safety and efficacy, I think?
I discovered that the US Supreme Court has already ruled on compulsory vaccine mandates;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobson_v._Massachusetts
So it seems that even in America with a Conservative court in 1905, compulsion by the government in the interest of the common good was not something ”beyond the pale” in American conservative ideology.
Justice Harlan’s view is worthy of quoting I think;
‘”in every well ordered society charged with the duty of conserving the safety of its members the rights of the individual in respect of his liberty may at times, under the pressure of great dangers, be subjected to such restraint, to be enforced by reasonable regulations, as the safety of the general public may demand…”
And what I really liked reading;
”…real liberty for all could not exist under the operation of a principle which recognizes the right of each individual person to use his own [liberty], whether in respect of his person or his property, regardless of the injury that may be done to others.”
That blast quote turns the idea of freedom on its head. In addition to that, there was no process by which vaccines were approved and any vaccination was a roll of the dice. While FDA has supposedly approved of a WuFlu vaccine, they did not follow the legal processes they are obliged to use and, therefore, did not actually approve anything. Add to that fact that the “vaccine” they approved is not even available in the US, and your entire argument falls like a house of cards.
The US Supreme Court often gets things wrong. It’s not surprising that Harlan got this one wrong as well. Anyone taking the fake covid vaccine is playing with fire. One doctor took a blood sample of a patient before and after “vaccination” and found the post vaccine blood test showed a man who was apparently suffering an autoimmune disorder. Based on projections, at 5 years it is expected 50% of those having taken the fake vaccine will be dead.
The vaccines are not vaccines. They are simply toxins and everyone taking any of the fake vaccines has become a lab rat.
Pilgrim: That is fine, if the government is actually following the law. But in this case the government itself is breaking its own laws and violating its own standards. Experimental and new technologies must not be forced on people. False claims must not be used to promote vaccine use. The society is not well ordered, and neither is the government. And I suppose you approve the governor of California’s mandate to vaccinate children!? — Children are not threatened by this virus! Yet we do not know the long-term effects of these vaccines.
But Pilgrim, I am not injuring anyone by not getting vaccinated or not wearing a mask. To the contrary, it appears the vaccinated can put the unvaccinated at risk.
Also, studies conclusively showed *before* the Coronavirus, that masks are ineffective against airborne respiratory viruses.
As for Ivermectin, I keep a supply on hand in case my grandfather who lives nearby, or any of my neighbors get the virus. I have shared it with three people who each had a pretty rough case of the virus, and all three of them told me it made a very noticeable, positive difference in their recovery.
And please dont assume everyone who is so strongly opposed to these useless, toxic jobs is a Trump fanatic. I only voted for Trump, because there was no other option. I did not vote for him in the primaries. I do some research, but do not have time for hours and hours of it, but good ole common sense and intuition, and a Biblical foundation and pretty good understanding of History and human nature, kept me from expecting too much from the man.
I expected him to hit the ground running after the election,but the first thing he did is go on a tour of different states, bragging about his victory. I knew right then we weren’t going to see any long term, positive changes.
In fact, I seriously doubt many -if any- who comment here were hung ho Trumpers. We all probably appreciate some of the things he did, but were not blind followers of him. He screwed up majorly I’m certain things -pushing the vaccines was one of them.
Pilgrim: The vaccines presently being injected into Americans were not approved. A Pfizer vaccine that is presently unavailable was approved. And that approval was not in accordance with FDA rules. You can check on this. But even if they offered the approved vaccine, the safety studies require several years. They basically broke their own rules for that approval. So there it is: How could it be anything but an EXPeRIMENT!? And why?
Mr. Nyquist,
Allow me to assume for the sake of argument that you are entirely correct in your statement. And then let’s assume also in addition that the authorities took the time and care of several years to make the safety studies before releasing vaccines for COVID-19, as you would deem safe. What then (admittedly a hypothetical) do you surmise would have happened as the Trump administration let millions of people die instead of taking the action they did?
THEN, you might have had a real Leftist revolution on your hands, and the collapse of America.
You say in regards to today’s situation in America that the Governor of California wants to have children vaccinated for COVID-19 (are they not vaccinated for other things in order to go to school?) and what I think of that; ”as children are not threatened by the virus”. Well, they may not have an increased risk from the virus in comparison to adults, but they can and do transmit the virus to adults. That makes them also a disease vector with the adult population. I can only imagine the grief and guilt a child might feel for having given the sickness to their grandparent or something of that sort.
But again, I think we’re dealing with Dostyoevsky’s ”Underground Man”, stating truthfully that man in his free will will not often do anything of his own volition if he feels constrained or inconvenienced in any way, if he feels his liberty is in doubt as a result. Not to be a ”Piano Key”. Now I’m not quite in synchronization with Fyodor on this, I am more a believer in Compatibilism. We will freely what we are moved to will by God, Predestination and Free Will are both in the Mystery of Election somehow reconciled.
I suspect that there is far more at stake Mr. Nyquist, with the controversy engendered around the Pandemic and the Vaccines, than most people would realize. A great deal of the American Experiment is in question, the philosophical underpinnings and assumptions that have gone into America’s making.
That’s why there is such strong feeling on the side of the American Libertarian/Right, as well as with the execrable Liberals.
Pilgrim: Why do you care so much that American children are vaccinated with an experimental vaccine? Oh! Yes. It is because you are care so much about American society. Are they vaccinating children in Russia? If not, why not? Surely you don’t want millions of Russian children to die! For shame! Why aren’t you petitioning the Kremlin right now to vaccinate all Russian school children? Please explain yourself!
Good point
I think they did preliminary experiments which prove that the mRNA Covid serum, is deadly.
I think it’s being debated. We need more transparency with the science and less advocacy.
Pilgrim, what you are assuming for the sake of argument are simply facts. The FDA has admitting to the fake vaccines killing 2 for every 1 saved. Pharmaceuticals were pulled from the market with far, far fewer deaths than the fake covid vaccines. The data strongly suggests the vaccines themselves are lethal. The fact that the overwhelming majority of new cases are among the vaccinated pretty much discredits the idea they are effective, and we know they aren’t safe either. The fake vaccine hysteria is a scam.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/colorado-health-system-denies-kidney-transplant-unvaccinated
Jeff,i think you somewhere said that you were surprised that we’re re still around.And i share this sentiment.Last year in March i thought the end was now near nigh,but evidently i was wrong.Seeing how things are headed,i however somethimes think it might be a blessing to go out with a bang.
David Wilkserson in his (1985 ?) book ‘set the trumpet to thy mouth’ predicted that the US-military would become ‘as women’ and their billion dollar inventory would amount to no more than ‘stidks and stones’.
The allusive forsight vizaviz transgenderism is poignet and i’ve been aware of emp.But obviously,if non-vaccinated pilots are chased out of their profession,their multi-dollar traning/equipmwent is effectively worthless.
”Ohengineer” you said;
”Lincoln was not a conservative. He was a disciple of Henry Clay who was a statist who wanted to use government for his own ends. Lincoln took up those cudgels and waged an illegal war to force the south back into the Hamiltonian raw deal. The mess we have in the US now is a result of Lincoln’s foundation.”
I take it then that you are a ”Neo-Confederate”? Then you are not invested in obedience to legitimate commands of these authorities no matter what they will, even President Trump? Is it then a case of ”the worse, the better” for your cause?
I can’t speak for Ohengineer, but it seems to me that you make an ignorant assumption, grim pill. The point is not to secede from the country, rather it’s that the illegitimate 14th Amendment incorporated a new country in secession from the United States of America. Lincoln put US under the Liber Code in lieu of the Bill of Rights. Martial Law was never rescinded after Lincoln’s war against Christian America, pursuant to the Liber Code.
The 14th Amendment was fraudulently enacted without a Constitutional quorum, as the South boycotted the First Congress after Lincoln’s War. That veneer is the first instance of the terms, United States, Person, and Privileges. Prior to that, it’s: The United States of America, Man, and Rights. Lincoln was a subtle lawyer. Both the North and the South were disingenuous about slavery, but the Confederate Constitution abolished the importation of slaves, from anywhere other than the North. Lincoln didn’t claim to do that until after his war, but anyone who claims citizenship under the illegitimate 14th Amendment, becomes property of the State.
What you take is incorrect. The loony left in the US would call me such, but they are wrong about so much, it doesn’t pay to give them any attention. One can recognize the sins of the Hamiltonians without being a Neo-confederate.
Your characterization of Neo-confederates is also in serious error.
”Greyknight”, you said;
”But Pilgrim, I am not injuring anyone by not getting vaccinated or not wearing a mask. To the contrary, it appears the vaccinated can put the unvaccinated at risk.
Also, studies conclusively showed *before* the Coronavirus, that masks are ineffective against airborne respiratory viruses.
As for Ivermectin, I keep a supply on hand in case my grandfather who lives nearby, or any of my neighbors get the virus. I have shared it with three people who each had a pretty rough case of the virus, and all three of them told me it made a very noticeable, positive difference in their recovery.
And please dont assume everyone who is so strongly opposed to these useless, toxic jobs is a Trump fanatic. I only voted for Trump, because there was no other option. I did not vote for him in the primaries. I do some research, but do not have time for hours and hours of it, but good ole common sense and intuition, and a Biblical foundation and pretty good understanding of History and human nature, kept me from expecting too much from the man.
I expected him to hit the ground running after the election,but the first thing he did is go on a tour of different states, bragging about his victory. I knew right then we weren’t going to see any long term, positive changes.”
In any case, you are not a doorstop or piano key, a gear in a machine, I get that.
I feel like Don Quixote at times like this. But it’s true; ”put not your trust in princes”. I think that there are few real problems with any of the vaccines, anywhere, some are more effective than others. Maybe the American are more effective but not as safe as others, while the Chinese are safe but not as effective, and the Russian vaccines are somewhere in the middle :-).
I guess that I will have to trust, whatever one’s choice, in the will of God. And wish for all the best.
“I think that there are few real problems with any of the vaccines, anywhere, some are more effective than others.”
None are effective. Sputnik might not kill you, but given its lack of effectiveness, why chance that you might react poorly to the introduction of that mess into your body when it doesn’t work? I’ve seen the reports out of Russia, and Sputnik is no better than the fake vaccines here.
Like the majority of Russians, you fall for the same trap that has ensnared generations before you. Government can not be trusted, and certainly not the KGB thug that is enriching himself at your expense, and spending money to intimidate the neighbors that the nation can not afford.
I agree, ultimately that is all we can do, just let each person decide for themselves, and trust God. Nothing wrong with each person pointing out pros, cons, question marks, anecdotal evidence for or against. But each person should be able to choose for themselves. The frenzied coercion is where most Americans get our hackles up.
I’m ready to sue LA County, just for mandating shots to see a movie.
Brother if I were you, I’d get the hell out of LA County anyway, lol.
It’s nice here in Westwood, but Flagstaff might be smarter.
From what little I’ve read, it seems yall have a good, levelheaded sherriff in L.A. County.
I meant I agree with your last statement that we just need to trust God and hope for the best. I do not agree that the vaccines are harmless. Just to be clear, lol. As a science teacher I had in school used to always say, “Time will tell.” Time will tell all things. Or like the hymn I have to sing to myself alot of times, “We will understand it better by and by.”
Greyknight, we ”see as through a glass darkly”. I’m not saying that I cannot be wrong, God knows I’ve been quite wrong a lot in my life, but I suspect that all this too shall pass. I will say that I am far more concerned about militant Islam in the world. I see those people, and see the distinct possibility of an Islamic Antichrist. Certainly St. John Damascene (John of Damascus) once called Islam the ”Harbinger of the Antichrist” in his day (and he should have known, being a Christian court official of one of the Muslim Caliphs). That is the lens I look through when I read on this site and elsewhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEMlvpMY7yw
I am concerned about Muslims as well. I detest everything they bring to a land not their own.
But I detest the people pushing the “vaccines” just as much. As Mr. Nyquist has pointed out, at the very *least* it was very irresponsible for Trump or anyone else to push these when they did not abide by the rules in place for testing new vaccines. At the least. But time will tell. I believe that this too would have already passed if our fubar government and media didnt keep manipulating it for whatever ends they have in mind. I think those ends are control -a la current Australian style control. But we’ll see.
Mr. Nyquist, what do you think about this: I have been around several people I knew had the virus since this whole thing began. Yet I have not contracted it. Last year, one of my guys came to me at work. And said he and his whole family had the virus, and asked what I wanted him to do. I said, do what you would do if it were the flu. If you are running a fever, or just need to rest then stay home. He told me his fever had broken over the weekend, and he would rather keep working. I said, well keep working then. He worked beside me the whole time he had it, yet I never got it. Someone told me there is a theory that those with certain blood types do not catch it. Have you heard anything like that?
Dr. Bhakdi says in his book that approximately 90 percent of the populace already has antibodies to this kind of virus, and are protected. That may be the explanation.
Greyknight, our whole family takes high-dose Vitamin D and desiccated beef liver pills (high in bioavailable zinc, selenium, other trace minerals) daily to avoid sickness during the winter. So far we haven’t caught COVID. And we’re out in public almost every day. We also have to avoid a few things in order to remain resistant to illness— primarily antibiotics (think “secondary” infections), but also substances that have antibiotic-like effects, such as artificial/zero calorie sweeteners. Let me know if you’d like more info, and I can get it to you. While germ theory is correct, the idea of terrain is just as if not more important.
K, yes I’m always interested in info like that that I can apply to my daily life. I dont take any kinds of vitamins, but I eat pretty healthy, dont consume much sugar, and fork outside a lot. Also have a garden, have dogs, horses, goats, chickens, in other words outside and active in fresh air and sunshine a good bit. I hardly ever get sick other than sinuses when the weather changes, or an occasional cold.
K, my email is joryly@protonmail.com. Definitely interested in the information.
How could it be anything but an Experiment? Why?
How ’bout a crime? Crimes have motives, means, and opportunity. We see the means and opportunities. The psychological abuse, political gaslighting and corrupt science.
As for motives;
The world runs low on cheap oil, and is a bankrupt Ponzi economy full of decrepit pensioners.
Cheapest, easy money for malinvested banks is to slaughter its creditors.
An excuse for demand-destruction (rationing) sans wage-price controls.
# social sec/medicaid/care Final Solution – kill off tax liabilities, down-size dependent populace, reduce expenses
# Get fascist deep-state pharma corp enablers filthy rich
# Eugenics – murder the mindless & sterilize the stupid
# Sacrifice lives, especially innocent childrens lives to Satan
It has been noted by Christian philosophers that rejection of Christ (individual acceptance of sin responsibility) leads to scapegoating, terror and sacrifice. Tolkien’s human sacrifice before Numenor/Atlantis destruction, et.
# C.S. Lewis “Inner Ring”; evil ones who sell souls can’t feel true joy, hate thefts & self (Gollum), project self-hate onto victims & want to hurt & kill everyone else, especially innocent. All the top globalist Wraiths are childless.
# Make Russian Roulette/Vaxine Roulette the new social sacrament. Instead of Good Friday, VaxBooster Friday. A funeral in place of Easter.
# Of course, the primary motive, assign all of us an asset tag/livestock tag/tracking/self-destruct tag.
# Ensure nobody outlives their profitability by living long enought to claim benefits. Vaccine Replicant Retirement.
# Cripple/kill the tail of the Parato distribution (and terrorize both productive & non-productive)
# Ensure compliance, Stockholm syndrome, with a “social credit” vax
# Marek’s Syndrome – create hives of super-spreaders in hospitals & gov institutions to infect & kill defective & old livestock
# Depersonalize as filth & infected vermin independent thinkers and professional-white-male tax & pension liabilities that won’t sacrifice themselves on the altar of collectivism – checkout the Stanford Prison experiment – preparing a culture of gulag-guards that will murder and break dissidents.
# Suppress revolts and distract dissent – periodically break a new testube when increasingly frequent bank-runs and revolts occur, and maintain the Strategy Of Tension / Red Terror
# Expel sincere health professionals while inculcating ventilator-tranquilizer executioners for anyone failing an over-cranked PCR (cycle-count based on your social-credit, and bank-credit score).
Oh, such a gift that keeps giving! Gates and Fauci should share this years Screwtape Prize. The Hideous Strength!
Mr. Nyquist, you said;
”Pilgrim: The Russian I talked with today was born and educated in the Soviet Union. Funny you should color him and his milieu as descended from upper-class Russians from before 1917, who would “swoon at the Romanov wedding.” I detect more than a little a little nostalgia for the Bolsheviks bleeding through your text, and more than a little contempt for the monarchist society you supposedly prefer.”
No, no nostalgia for the God-fighting Bolsheviks, they arose out of the Westernizing milieu that the Romanovs produced. They are the bastard sons of Tsar Peter, you might say.
”I thought you were a Tsarist — that you would be swooning over the prospect of actual royalty. Ah, but you do not like the Romanovs. You like chocolate, but not that kind of chocolate. So Putin is best, then. Such a paradox!”
It might be a paradox were it not a strawman. And I am a ”Tsarist”, but don’t want a repeat or worse of the last 300 plus years, either. Nor is President Putin a woman, that I should love or hate him.
”The monarchist who dislikes the monarchy”
I guess I only have one choice of Royal Family? That would be most unfair, and rather strange. Not to hardly mention that these people are the descendants of the Romanovs who hung Tsar Nicholas out to dry during the February Revolution, and all turned Republican and loyal to the Provisional Government and/or fled. A new Monarch is going to have to earn the trust and love of the people and show the graces of his anointing.
”but likes the KGB Lt. Col. who likes communist ideas, makes toasts to Stalin, and supports every communist country around the globe. Oh, yes, nobody wants communism in your country. They never liked it, even when it was crammed down their throats. It always stank. All true, except for those agile opportunists who adapted and thrived. But hey, you have “personally moved beyond all that.” You are vaccinated with the Russian vaccine. Life under Vladimir Putin is peachy, His regime is, “built on a measure of social love and trust” while we in the West believe in “checks and balances.” How nasty and paranoid we, preferring the rule of law to the rule of gangsters. I rather think political gangsterism is anarchy, not the rule of law (by which government power is limited). But you will have it your own way.”
Again, I do not ”like” President Putin. What I do like is the prospect in the future of having a Righteous and Orthodox Sovereign Tsar, God willing. You might think I’m letting the perfect be the enemy of the good, or something like that, but while I can live in a Republic, be a loyal citizen, I’m no Republican
You have no way to get from here to there. So much pie in your sky.
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/20/cdc-afghans-arriving-in-u-s-infected-with-measles-malaria-tuberculosis/
Could this be part of the Chinese/Russian Communist pre-war “depopulation agenda” (for the USA) that you had talked about with Nevin Gussack? I watched that interview recently; it was fascinating.
Every little bit helps, I suppose. I think the depopulation agenda is China’s — outlined in General Chi Haotian’s secret speech which is reproduced on this site’s second posting.
Yes.
Mr Nyquist, you said;
”Pilgrim: Why do you care so much that American children are vaccinated with an experimental vaccine? Oh! Yes. It is because you are care so much about American society. Are they vaccinating children in Russia? If not, why not? Surely you don’t want millions of Russian children to die! For shame! Why aren’t you petitioning the Kremlin right now to vaccinate all Russian school children? Please explain yourself!”
I might be a fool, but I am a Christian one albeit a sinner. As such I trust the vaccines for the most part, and hope since I believe them to be the case, that as many get them as possible so that civilization everywhere is protected and this Plague ended. My love does not begin or end at the Russian frontier, I have a concern for all mankind of good will and also wish for those of evil will to turn from their bad way.
And about the dreams of Monarchy/Tsardom;
”You have no way to get from here to there. So much pie in your sky.”
If that is the case, then the ”Restrainer” mentioned by the Apostle has been set aside, and Antichrist will soon come, if he hasn’t already. For the Fathers said that by the ”Restrainer” the Roman Empire was meant. And for me as with others, Moscow was the Third and Final Rome.
So yes, I kind of pray for an Orthodox Tsar to come and hold back the forces of darkness a bit. It’s a wholesome prayer at least and not in vain either, for Christ Himself is the the eternal Tsar over all and He will return to set everything right.
Mr. Nyquist, I dont know if you can see it on your end or not, but on the reply you just made to Pilgrim, and another comment you made to someone further up, it says “Unable to show this comment”.
So my comments are not visible?
At least two of them are not.
The other one looks like it was another one you made in reply to Pilgrim, just above your reply to me about Dr Bhakdi saying about 90% of the population already has antibodies to this kind of virus.
Oh. I did not make a comment. I posted a video. So you have to look at the actual website to see it.
Ok.
Refresh your browser or you get the page the last time you viewed it without the latest posts.
Did Orwell give the idea to the bastards?
No.
As long as the Church is present on the earth, the restrainer remains. Jesus will return to reign, and begin the restoration of all things, but the earth will go through hell in a hand basket first. The claim that Moscow was the third Rome was a clownish assertion. I’ve read the early fathers and I have not seen one that claimed the Roman regime was the restrainer.
And as long as there are worshipers of God present willing to fight and defend the sacredness of living happily and peacefully. Genuine Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Coptic, Catholics, and Greek Orthodox value the importance of having a place to worship and believe in causing no harm. However, Chinese/Vietnamese et communists and Muslims will do harm to anyone and destroy whoever is in their way to dominate and control land/resources for GREED, which has come to resemble much of modern Western culture as technology pushes thru films/social media that good is bad and bad is good.
After WW2, the communists from Eastern Europe immigrated and infiltrated the Western govts. and institutions and expansionism of perversion/demoralization from communism ways were pushed from there on. However, prior to WW2, in reading G.K. Chesterton and books from that time, a realistic sentiment and understanding of the Chinese problem existed amongst the populous, which has since been lost. “He regarded them as a huge and pitiless peril, like a Chinese invasion” (J.K. Chesterton, The Man Who was Thursday).
Many innocent people around the world suffered under the invasions of the Chinese and the spread of communism. The Khmer Krom (meaning Khmers living in the South) people from the Khmer Empire, live in oppression and fear in what is called today as Souther Vietnam. Vietnamese are Chinese extracts and Vietnam is an official communist country. Vietnamese have forcibly destroyed Khmer culture and religion.
In this video, the Khmer monks and Buddhist devotees expressed the abuse and harm from Vietnamese destroying temples, murdering, “erasing religion,” and prohibiting the native tongue: Khmer (dubbed Cambodian); forcing Vietnamese language (a Chinese language) upon the population, and stealing of private property.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPGofFuHr3A
There are many parallels with the Khmer Krom descriptions of events to what is going on at this moment in America.
“The dictatorship of the Chinese Communist Party is allied to the global deep state, on the one hand so that together they can attain the goals that they have in common, on the other hand because the plans for the Great Reset are an opportunity to increase the economic power of China in the world, beginning with the invasion of national markets. At the same time that it pursues this project in its foreign policy, China is pursuing a domestic plan to restore the Maoist tyranny, which requires the cancellation of religions (primarily the Catholic religion), replacing them with a religion of the State…”
– Archbishop Vigano
There are two statements related to some of the things recently said on this forum:
“Statistics don’t lie, but liars use statistics.”
Or as Mark Twain quipped, “There are lies, damned lies, and statistics.”
To give an example from “global warming”, have you noticed that many of the charts start with about 1850? That was a rather cold year. It was the tail end of the “Little Ice Age”. Of course, our present climate, as of a few years ago, was warmer than then. But what if the time line started in 1100, at the height of the Medieval Warm Period? That time was warmer than today. Oh, but the ones claiming global warming have an ace up their sleeve—change the older records to cooler than when they were originally measured. After doing that, voilá, the “statistics” make it look like we have global warming. Liars use statistics.
After seeing Pilgrim’s full-throated defense of the “vaccines”, including parroting the claim that 95% presently hospitalized with Covid-19 are among the “unvaccinated”, it looks like he has a strong case. However, what is the definition of “unvaccinated”? According to at least a couple of articles I’ve read, the CDC and hospitals count as “vaccinated” only those after two weeks after their second jab of Moderna or Pfizer “vaccines”. That is often six weeks after the first jab or longer. The majority of serious reactions and deaths occur before that six week period is over. If a person has a serious reaction, even one that leads to eventual death, or dies, during that six weeks after receiving his first jab, the CDC and hospitals count that as an illness or death among the “unvaccinated”.
We still don’t know the long-term effects of the jabs.
Statistics don’t lie, but liars (ab)use statistics.
Very good.
I deleted two posts from Pilgrim (Vladimir) because I am frankly angry that he argued for the vaccination of American children and very clearly showed himself to be an absolute religious fraud. In fact, I know Orthodox people and he is as Orthodox as a Turk. Vaccinate children with an experimental vaccine? Then cynically compare it to ordinary vaccines! Then feign indignity when he is caught falsifying numbers and misrepresenting facts? He got rather bent out of shape by R,O.’s post. Very good, R.O. Well done! I have lost all patience with him. The only thing I really demand here is honesty. Once you show me that you are dishonest, don’t come back. We all make mistakes in searching for the truth, but dishonesty is boring. Very boring.
Jeff, not sure if you can comment in regards to the Grand Solar Minimum, this video from Adapt2030 (David DuByne) youtube where he speaks with Bob Kudla about the Grand Solar Minimum, it seems China is in a dire situation:
Very sobering discussion.